Episode 4 has sparked an unexpectedly intense conversation among viewers, with many questioning whether the showâs deliberate pacing crossed the line between artistic storytelling and emotional disengagement. đđ
Melissa McCarthy refuses to choose comedy or tragedy in her movies. She wants it all, and a nice balance of both really hits the spot.
âI donât love when characters are just all serious all the time or when someoneâs goofy all the time. I donât know how to do a comedy without pathos,â McCarthy says. âYou have to really let a character fall and fail for you to root for them to get up.â
McCarthyâs latest film is definitely one of those wide-ranging emotional roles: In the Netflix dramedy âThe Starlingâ (streaming Friday), her character Lilly is still coming to grips with the sudden death of her infant daughter while also trying to maintain a connection with husband Jack (Chris OâDowd), who goes to a mental health facility in the aftermath of the loss. Lilly struggles at work and also at home, where a pesky black bird constantly dive-bombs her when she tends to her garden until she meets a veterinarian (Kevin Kline) who helps get her back on track.
âI love and understood that feeling of somebodyâs got to keep it going,â McCarthy, 51, says of Lilly. âI have two kids (daughters Vivian, 14, and Georgette, 11) and there is always that feeling of when tough times come, itâs like, âNo, no, no, you donât get to have this moment. Someone has to keep it together.â You do that out of love and out of necessity and out of fear of if you do fall apart, will you ever put it back together?â
McCarthy, who recently spent time in Australia filming Huluâs âNine Perfect Strangersâ as well as Netflixâs upcoming comedy âGodâs Favorite Idiotâ with her husband/filmmaker/frequent co-star Ben Falcone, checks in via Zoom to discuss âThe Starling,â a childhood encounter with wildlife and playing the infamous Ursula in Disneyâs live-action remake of âThe Little Mermaidâ (in theaters May 26, 2023).
Question: Lilly goes to war with this little bird before coming to care for it. Have you ever had a similar run-in with a critter?
Melissa McCarthy:Â I grew up on a corn and soybean farm in Illinois and we had literally 35 cats outside. We did have one cat that later we were told had epilepsy and instead of a seizure, it reacted (aggressively). Its name was Sweetness â the irony â and it was OK as long as you were petting it. But if you went to walk away, it would start that like âRrrrrrrrâ and you knew you were in trouble. I was probably in third grade and I was like, I wonât engage it because usually if you didnât engage it, it was OK. It was truly like a cartoon: It went around me, all the way up, all over my head, back down to my feet. By the time I saw my dad and one of the farmers running toward me, it had two full passes on me. So I have danced with some wildlife.

Q: Being a mom yourself, did that aspect of Lillyâs story touch you in a very real way?
McCarthy: Absolutely. Itâs having to not only think about but really make the commitment to live with the unimaginable for a long duration of time. You have to go to places that are very uncomfortable and I would also have to monitor how much she doesnât show it. I am not a stoic person. I donât have a great poker face in my real life. I cry at the drop of a hat. So to play someone that is going through this grief and loss but is choosing not to show it was a really unusual challenge.

Q: Do your kids have a favorite movie with you and Ben?
McCarthy: I donât know. Theyâve not seen all of them. Theyâre getting to that point now where they can, but I always feel creepy being like, âDo you want to watch one of our movies?â They really enjoyed âThunder Force,â our last one, because that one was PG, but Iâm about to let them see all of them, so weâll see. Theyâve seen parts of everything.
Our youngest never could see me being hurt. It was sweet. All of the stunts that Iâm like, âI worked so hard on that!â â it was very upsetting for her. And now sheâs like, âI get it, itâs a stunt.â Iâm like, âOK, Ironsides.â
Q: So you falling off a ladder in âThe Starling,â thatâs totally fine?
McCarthy:Â Yeah, now she doesnât care at all. That one actually hurt. Sheâs like, âWell, you signed up for it.â Sheâs grizzled.
Q: How was being a villainous sea witch in the new âLittle Mermaidâ?
McCarthy:Â Glorious. The world of Disney and (director) Rob Marshall is a world that I wish everyone could experience because itâs so creative, kind and lovely. Going to singing class every day, I was actually sad: I got to record with an orchestra, which is a mind-bender for someone who is not a singer, and then they were like, âThatâs it, weâve got your song.â And I was like, âWait, I donât get to go to class anymore?â I was actually kind of heartbroken about it, but it was such a fun process. Itâs going to be incredible.
Q: Was a musical on your Hollywood bucket list?
McCarthy:Â No, because I didnât think anybody would let me. I love to dance, I love music, I love musicals, but I was like, âWell, Iâm not trained in that, so I donât get to do that.â To me, Ursula is everything. Sheâs one of my absolute favorite villains so to play her was delicious.


