âHey, cowboy.â
Michelle Pfeiffer welcomes Kurt Russell with the apt greeting as he walks onto the Big Sky set of Entertainment Weeklyâs Los Angeles cover shoot for their new Taylor Sheridan series, The Madison.
Over the course of the interview, the Hollywood icons will leap out of their seats, perform physical gags that send the other into echoing peals of joyous laughter, and quietly reach out to hold hands, but in this moment thereâs a profound silence that stretches across the bar as Russell expounds on what keeps him (and everyone) humble: death.
He pitches forward, taps Pfeifferâs armrest, and reveals he already has a title for his seemingly posthumous memoir. âKurt Russellâs Dead: How on Earth Are We Gonna Go On?â he jokes. âThen your realization hits you: It makes you angry about this person you knew, who you felt meant so much, and the worldâs treating it as if they donât. I canât believe it. They didnât even know about it.â
Most people actively avoid confronting their own mortality â even more so at eight in the morning like Russell is now. However, itâs that salient outrage and heartbreak that he believes is perfectly weaved into The Madison. The drama (which just premiered its first three episodes on Paramount+), follows the affluent Clyburn family, led by mom Stacy (Pfeiffer), as they venture out West from New York City to rural Montana to identify the bodies of patriarch Preston (Russell) and uncle Paul (Matthew Fox) following their deaths in a small plane crash.
Pfeiffer views loss as a priority reset.
âFor a brief amount of time, all that really matters is connection with other human beings,â she tells her costar. âI remember feeling it a couple of times in my life when I suffered losing someone who was meaningful to me. I remember thinking, Oh my God, how can I hold on to this? It felt so good and so real and authentic and safeâŠ. And in a weird way, it was relaxing, because I wasnât busy just trying to make things happen. You just stop all that.â
The Golden Globe-winning actress laughs as she admits to EW, âStacyâs not there yet.â
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Thatâs putting it lightly. The first three episodes of The Madison have pushed the matriarch to the brink as she grapples with the loss of her husband and what to do with the bucolic Montana property that he and his brother left behind. Her current plan is to bury Preston and Paul in Stacyâs Valley, a wildflower-dotted hillside named after her that overlooks the winding riverbed where the brothers spent years fly fishing together.
But the idea of Stacy planting permanent roots in Montana raises red flags for her adult daughters Paige (Elle Chapman) and Abigail (Beau Garrett), given their desire to quickly return back to NYC â a land with indoor plumbing and no need for bear spray.
âTheir plan is to leave,â Garrett says of the sisters. âThe only thing that is telling them theyâre staying is their mother. I think theyâre just waiting for her to be like, âOkay, letâs get the plane!â And itâs just not happening.â
At least, not yet.
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A new frontier
When The Madison was announced in August 2024, Paramount billed it as one of several Yellowstone spinoffs, alongside Dutton Ranch, 6666, and 1944. Pfeiffer remembers Sheridan described the series as âthe next chapter of Yellowstoneâ before it âbecame its own show, separateâ from the franchise. (Jane Wiseman, executive vice president and head of originals at Paramount+, tells EW that sheâs âalways knownâ that The Madison wasnât a Yellowstone spinoff, but acknowledges that she âwasnât in the original story meeting where Taylor said one way or the otherâ and that it may have been âcommunicated differentlyâ in the past.)
Pfeiffer ultimately signed onto the project as a star and executive producer without seeing a script, noting that Sheridan gave her a âskeletalâ overview of its premise â which didnât change, regardless of spinoff status â and âwanted to cast it first and then write around [us]â instead.
Russell followed in the same capacity soon after, crediting Sheridanâs female-gaze-oriented writing, as well as his interest in reuniting with Pfeiffer almost 40 years after they shared the screen in 1988âs Tequila Sunrise. When a prior commitment threatened Russellâs involvement, Pfeiffer and Sheridan suggested the series be split into two separate, six-episode seasons to keep him aboard.
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From there, the Clyburn clan was forged in myriad ways. Chapman, making her television debut in the series, recalls screen testing in Wyoming âagainst girls I grew up watchingâ before Sheridan called and confirmed sheâd landed the role.
Garrett, star of Tron: Legacy and Firefly Lane, remembers reading the third episodeâs delightfully awkward round-pen scene with Sheridan as part of her audition. The cast eventually came together with Fox as Paul; Patrick J. Adams as Paigeâs pushover husband, Russell; and Amiah Miller and Alaina Pollack as Abigailâs daughters Bridgett and Macy, respectively.
To spearhead the series, Sheridan tapped Christina Alexandra Voros â a longtime collaborator whose credits include Yellowstone, 1883, and Lawman: Bass Reeves â to pull double duty as The Madisonâs director and director of photography. She tells EW that Sheridanâs cultural touchstones for the series were films that explored familial grief and trauma, including the fly-fishing-heavy A River Runs Through It (which Stacy and her family sob through in the very first episode, as well as Legends of the Fall and the Oscar-winning Ordinary People.Â
âA tragedy affects families in such fascinating ways, and it brings the most raw emotions â good, bad, and ugly â to the surface,â Voros explains. âAnd whatâs so interesting about the way that The Madison is written is you are allowed to peek through the lens of many different experiences of grief, and to see it felt from the perspective of someone whoâs been in a marriage for 40 years, and a granddaughter who has only had nine years with this person. You not only see how people deal with loss individually, but how it affects each other and the family dynamic.â
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Better together
When it came to crafting The Madison, Voros says that it was âimportant, first and foremost, to really build and create the love that is the most grieved.â
In other words, the romance between Stacy and Preston. Itâs clear that the couple, who began dating when Stacy was 19, balanced each other out, with flashback sequences highlighting their playful, âopposites attractâ dynamic even when theyâre debating how to handle the latest family drama.
Now, with Preston gone, Stacy is struggling to imagine a world without her first and only love.
âWhen you have grown up with someone and youâre so entangled with each other, after a while, you donât really even know where you end and the other person begins,â Pfeiffer says. âHow do you even start to imagine your life without them and rebuild when everything you knew has fallen apart?â
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The actress explains that Stacy hasnât even begun processing Prestonâs death by the end of the third episode.
âItâs also the shock of it. It also becomes like a PTSD thing,â she continues. âItâs bad enough if somebody gets ill and you see them suffer, but itâs not such a shock to your system when [they pass]. Itâs so compounded.â
At the same time, Stacyâs also battling a keen sense of regret over never visiting Montana when Preston was alive, which inspires her to commit to learning everything that she can about the land from his old notebook.
Russell points out that Stacyâs newfound outdoors obsession is rooted in âextreme guilt,â adding, âWhen she says, âI want to know everything about this place that I denied him the pleasure of us sharing togetherâ⊠Thatâs a deep guilt. Thatâs a really deep guilt.â
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Family matters
The rest of the Clyburns arenât handling Prestonâs death much better. The first three episodes have seen their dinner table become a proverbial battleground over elk entrees and, later, a literal one when Abigail and Paige get into a brutal, bloody brawl during breakfast.
âThat scene in particular just felt very crazy at some moments,â Chapman says of the fight sequence. âEspecially when I had to run at [Abigail], and Iâm yelling and pushing her into the bookcase.â
Their hair-pulling, biting, and shoving is quickly ended by Stacy, who gives her daughters one serious scolding.
âThat scene hit hard,â Garrett recalls. âIt shocked me how insanely ashamed I felt at that moment.â
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Pfeiffer sees the carnage between the siblings for what it really is.
âItâs all displaced anger,â she says. âTheyâre so heartbroken and angry about their father and they donât know where to put it. They donât want to put it with me, because they see how fragile I am, and they trust each other. You always lay in on somebody that you can trust, and who are you going to trust more than your sister?â
Chapman adds that Paige is still actively in denial when it comes to Prestonâs death, but that her pain surfaces in unexpected ways.
âOutwardly to her family, the way [Paige] handles grief is kind of⊠I donât want to say bratty, but she creates a defense mechanism where she cares more about these other little things â like the environment â because itâs easier for her to deal with something thatâs tangible versus this intangible thing that sheâs lost a huge part of her life and heart,â she says. âIt takes time for her to process and realize it.â
Especially since Paige is the baby of the family and âhas always been a daddyâs girl,â according to Chapman. âThe reason she married Russell is because he represents a lot of what her father was able to provide for her: stability, caretaking, support,â she adds. âI think Russell emulates all of those things. And also heâs successful, and her dad was really successful. Sheâs always been really, really close to her father.â
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Which is why, she warns, a breakdown is on the horizon.
âIt doesnât hit her that heâs actually gone until episode 4,â Chapman teases. âBut thereâs a moment where she really realizes it.â
Elder daughter Abigail is on a similar trajectory, despite the single momâs best attempts to hold her own mother and children upright as they acclimate to Montana and plan Preston and Paulâs funeral.
âShe sees how unraveled her mother is, and she has a natural ability to be steadfast and patient, because obviously she canât control anything,â Garrett says. âHer mom isnât going to do what she asked her to do, and Paige is not going to relate to her the way she wants her to relate to her, and her kids are not gonna want to be here, and someone has to be calm throughout it all. I donât know that she made that choice willingly, or if it just kind of happened naturally, but it seems like thatâs Abigailâs through-line in this until she canât anymore. Until she breaks.â
And that moment is coming.
âYou havenât seen the full meltdown quite yet,â she says. âThereâs a point where you can only take so much. Stacy is pushing everyone to wake up, and everyone has a breaking point.â
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Head over heals
And then thereâs Abigailâs whirlwind romance with that sheriff. Episode 3 introduced viewers to Van Davis (Ben Schnetzer), the unassuming police officer who picks up Abigail in his squad car after Stacy ditches her daughter by the side of the road during a tense argument. Against all odds, the pair end up hitting it off, with Abigail sending Van on his way later that evening with a few kisses and her phone number.
So⊠heâs going to call her, right?
âThe chances are high,â Schnetzer teases. âBut itâll surprise you.â
Their connection is one that comes âcompletely out of left fieldâ for Abigail, says Garrett. Still, she cautions that her character isnât taking anything too seriously right now, adding, âI think sheâs just like, âThis is amazing. Heâs a very handsome man. And I am feeling so lost. Maybe he can just help me not feel lost for a bit.’â
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It helps that Van has also dealt with grief, having lost his wife in an ATV accident years ago.
âThatâs one of the things thatâs so intriguing about this relationship: how unexpected that enmeshment is, and how these two people from completely different worlds recognize a brief glimpse of a counterpoint in each other,â Schnetzer shares. âBoth of whom have dealt with tragedy in their own lives, and in their own right, and are navigating it in their own way. Itâs the great equalizer, grief. And so thereâs common ground that they stand on in having experienced that.â
Their fledgling bond is one of a growing list of reasons for Abigail to permanently move to Montana, but Garrett says that the Clyburns arenât ready to say goodbye to the Big Apple just yet.
âI think that, ultimately, they canât just close out their chapter of New York and never come back,â she remarks. âThereâs a lot that has to be done. So itâs gonna be a ride over the next three episodes.â
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Wild mountain time
As if dealing with the loss of a family member wasnât hard enough, it hasnât been an easy transition for the Clyburns to go from the hustle and bustle of New York City to the great outdoors. Not that their local community â including Van and well-meaning neighbor Cade Harris (Kevin Zegers) â havenât tried to help out the East Coast elites wherever they can.
âWe are definitely out of our element here in Montana,â Chapman confesses. âWe come from this concrete jungle. None of these characters have ever encountered natural wildlife and the ruggedness that Montana offers, and I think that weâre all still trying to figure out: How do we exist in this world? And Paige struggles a little bit more than others because she also loves designer clothes and is wearing high heels all the time.â
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It certainly doesnât help being stung repeatedly in the groin by angry outhouse hornets. The comedic scene from episode 2, which saw Chapman âscream and grab my ass and run,â was the first she ever filmed for The Madison.
âIt was actually a pretty great scene to start with, because itâs so high energy and you really have to commit,â she reflects. âWhat I really learned with Paige is, if you donât commit, it doesnât work. It can seem like a caricature.â
But that much-needed levity is intentional.
âThe City Mouse and Country Mouse part of it is a very deep pool of humor in the season, and it always seems to be implicating the folks least equipped to deal with it,â Voros notes. âI feel like if Abby had gotten stung by the hornets, it would have been not quite as much of a chaotic spree. And thatâs something beautiful that Taylor does in his writing. I think he said something once that, as he writes, he tries to create characters that people will love and then do crazy things to them. And watching them try to deal with something that they donât have the tools to deal with is at times heartbreaking, and at times hysterical.â
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Moving forward
The Clyburn familyâs future, both personally and geographically, remains uncertain ahead of the seasonâs final three episodes, which will all drop on March 21. Wiseman reveals that the characters âdo spend time back in New York,â so it appears that they will soon be homeward bound after all.
The second half of the season also promises to introduce some new characters into the fold, including Abigailâs notorious ex-husband.
âHe will come at the end of the season,â Garrett confirms. âI think youâll understand a lot when you meet him.â
Russell also emphasizes that the familyâs loss is still fresh by the end of season 1, noting that itâs been âless than a weekâ since the accident. âStacyâs] still gonna run into people saying, âHey, howâs Preston doing?â âHeâs a great guy.â âRemember the time we did that thing?ââ Russell points out. âThere wonât even be time for her to say heâs dead!â
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While we wait for a release date for The Madisonâs already filmed second season, Wiseman is thinking further ahead, hoping the series will âcontinue onâ for a third season too: âI mean, this is, again, a love story â and an evolution â and so I do feel like thereâs a lot more to tell.â
Which sounds good to Garrett, because thereâs one storyline in particular she would like to see come to fruition.
âYou know, I still kept waiting for the grizzly bear,â she muses. âI feel like thereâs been so many references to bear spray. Iâm still waiting. Weâll see what happens.â
Seeing a bear would require Garrettâs character to stay in Montana, a move that Stacy has advocated for in the past and even threatened to cut her elder daughter off financially if she stays in NYC. The ultimatum is something her parents are divided on â or, at least, the actors who play her parents.
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Back at the Manhattan speakeasy, Russell, who has leaned forward like heâs developing a game plan, and Pfeiffer have differing opinions on Stacyâs parenting strategy that play out like a scrapped scene â to the point where a laughing Pfeiffer remarks, âOh no, donât go Preston on me now!â
She, not unlike Stacy, believes Abigail moving to Montana is the âlast chance she has to make her life mean something.â Russell, very much Preston, is worried about the repercussions of throwing their daughter into the deep end.
âI want to see how this goes, because if Stacy really does do this, that girlâs suspect to really falling down,â he explains, before referencing his and Pfeifferâs characters. âThese two people have had a lot of conversations about that. Sheâs always been stronger than him in that regard, but itâs part of the reason you like him.â
That yin and yang is as central to the couple on screen as it is to the actors portraying them.
As Pfeiffer simply states, âWe balance each other out.â


