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ossibly being dirty. Parker (Gary Cole) does convince him to drop that, but LaRoche says his job is to restore confidence in the agency by publicly clearing Vanceâs name of any wrongdoing ⊠and he seems to have designs on the directorâs chair. Uh-oh!
But the real shocker comes in the final scene. McGeeâs teen son Mateo (Patrick Keleher) tours NCIS but seemingly decides the cyber internship (and NCIS) isnât for him ⊠only for Palmer (Brian Dietzen) to note to Torres (Wilmer Valderrama) that he apparently used a workstation to fill out an application. When Torres looks into it, he canât find an application. Torres confronts Mateo in an alley, and the teen insists he drop it, revealing heâs armed. âThey could be watching,â he says. The finale ends with a gunshot ringing out, but itâs unclear who fired.
Showrunner Steven D. Binder breaks down the Season 23 finale and rules out one outcome of that cliffhanger when the series returns in the fall.
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Why have it be Torres who become suspicious of Mateo?
Steven D. Binder: I think that will become a little more clear when you see where the story goes, but in terms of thatâs working backwards to a conclusion, but I think itâs, who do we have on the table? Itâs going to be one of the three people that McGee works directly with. Itâs going to be Knight [Katrina Law], Torres, or Parker. And it just seemed like heâd be watching his buddy a little more closely maybe than some of the other characters. They each have some other things going on, especially given the penultimate episode. Parkerâs got some things on his mind perhaps. And heâs just the one whoâs more contemporary to being a father of roughly the same age as McGee. So I think heâs just watching a little more closely. Also, heâs one of the more suspicious guys. He was undercover. It would be in his nature to look sideways at anybody, including family.
Thereâs one gunshot, but we donât know who took it. Can you confirm if someoneâs dead or injured or if someone was hit?
Someone was hit. I can confirm that. I sort of had my fill this season, all of us, of killing people. So I can rule that out. And also, thereâs not a lot of fun there. When someoneâs dead, theyâre dead. Itâs much more interesting â Iâll think back to when Gibbs shot McGee. Itâs much more fun when someoneâs alive and been shot than when theyâre dead. And by fun, I mean, interesting.
Speaking of McGee, what can you tease about how heâs going to react to whateverâs going on? Because we know Mateo is caught up in something because he says to Torres, they could be watching.
Yes, yes. Heâs going to be all kinds of conflicted. Obviously, as a law enforcement officer, if crimes are being committed, thatâs going to pull him in one direction. But if it involves family, itâs going to pull him in another direction. Heâs experienced this before when his sister came to his door with her hands covered in blood and said, âTim, I think I killed somebody,â and he was caught between a rock and hard place, the rock being Gibbs and the law and the hard place being his loyalty to his sister. And thereâs a moment where, and I think what can be illuminating for the present is a line that McGee says to Gibbs when Gibbs comes at him and itâs like, âWhat are you doing, man?â The idea that anyone on the show would try and pull a fast one on Gibbs. Gibbs was a father figure to them. He never would do that. And McGeeâs standing there with Gibbs and McGee says to him, I donât remember the exact line, but itâs something like, âYou are my mentor, my teacher, my father figure, youâre everything to me, but sheâs my sister.â And I think Gibbs can understand that and I think everyone can understand that. And I think when push comes to shove, thatâs where McGeeâs loyalties are going to lead him, but itâs not going to be an easy â Itâll be an easy decision, but not an easy experience.
Talk about bringing Rocky back in such a substantial way and in this way.
When Rocky and I had the conversation about what was going to happen in the 500th, one of the first things I said to him was, âLook, on this show, dead never means gone.â And with a character like that and an actor like that, you canât let him go. Heâs too good. You got to use him. So we always knew if something was going to happen and things will continue to happen, Iâm sure, in that regard. But like most things, you donât want to force it like, âHey, letâs do a Vance flashback episode.â The story sort of dictated that. We knew we wanted to bring Kayla in, and it just seemed like we never got a chance to see her with her dad. It just seemed like that was the thing that you should do. Thatâs what you wanted to see. If weâre going to bring Kayla in, and that seemed like something we had to do, it was obligatory even, then it felt obligatory to see her with her father.
LaRoche has designs on the director chair; we got that very pointed look at it. But youâve left that chair vacant of a permanent replacement thus far. Why only bring in these interim directors that we havenât even seen for the rest of this season?
The answer to that is going to be a testament to Rocky Carroll. When the show began, we had a director, but he was not a regular fixture. The structure of the show didnât really support that in a way. Sure, if you want to do the cliche thing where the boss is telling you, âSpeed up the case,â or âSecNavâs leaning down my neck,â or things like that. But we skipped by those sort of classic, and by classic, I donât mean great, types of storytelling. And I think that partially is responsible for some of the early success of NCIS is we just didnât do things the regular way. So the role of the director was not necessarily supposed to be all there all the time. And we trialed Lauren Holly for a while and she was fantastic, but it was just very difficult to write that character in, which is why we wrote her off partially.
And then when Rocky came on, he was not hired for that many episodes. We were going to use a director sporadically and sparingly when we felt like we needed it here and there. And what ended up happening was Rocky was just such a fantastic actor and such a great guy to work with that he just ended up being in the show more and more. Even though structurally, it still sometimes was difficult to find a novel and interesting place for a supervisor to show up because thatâs really what he was. He was a supervisor. He wasnât really doing the work. And sometimes we did episodes that were all about him and those were some of our best episodes. But as a supervisor character, thatâs not necessarily great storytelling.
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So, when Rocky exited the show, we werenât feeling like, my gosh, we need to get a manager back in here. We need to get that supervisor character back in here. Unless thereâs a strong reason to do it, again, weâve been letting the stories dictate where we go with the director chair. And other than playing the loss of Vance, and that sort of has given us some things to play about, OK, whatâs going to happen now? The idea that we all landed on and gravitated to is we want to address that because we have to, and then we want to get back to telling stories with our core four and Kasie [Diona Reasonover] and Jimmy Palmer down in autopsy and telling the best stories we can there. And that usually doesnât mean involving a supervisor.
So then youâre just going to feel it out going forward? You donât have plans for anyone to come in? Or is that going to be the story with LaRoche? Does he fill that spot?
Weâll see where that goes. Weâve sort of played this game with him a little more than â yeah, heâs fantastic too, by the way â weâd initially intended. And I think thatâs also because when weâre looking for stories to tell, heâs great. We are on hiatus now, so there hasnât been a lot of deep thinking. But I think weâre going to play out his story probably once and for all in regards to his designs, and then weâll see where that lands us. The designs are what is the best story. Thatâs really the design. I know that may feel like a punt, but I think one of the other secrets to our success is we donât make these grand decisions upfront and then try and service them because sometimes, and oftentimes, and most of the times, things just want to go a certain way. And if youâve already decided youâre going to do this, it handcuffs you and then you canât go off in interesting and surprising ways.
You played a bit with Torres and Knight and what could be between them this season, but then there still is Knight and Palmer. What can you say about those dynamics going forward?
Itâs interesting because I really do try to not read anything about it because it gets in my head, but I have, unfortunately, and gets in all of our heads. And there are very strong feelings about Palmer and Knight of the kind of, canât they just get together because theyâre such a happy couple? But thatâs limiting storytelling. Having two people as a couple together is then thereâs just a couple. Thereâs nothing to play. Thereâs nothing to see. Thereâs nothing to do. Weâre a cop show, so theyâre not at home having the regular squabbles that youâd see if you lived together and were at home. Theyâre in an office. And how many fights or dramatic moments can they have, especially when theyâre both extremely emotionally mature people, especially Jimmy Palmer, Iâd say, heâs been through a marriage and has children.
Torres, not so much. And so it has shaken things up. And again, thatâs something where weâre just going to see where it goes. If we do go in a shocking way, the only thing Iâd say is sometimes the heart wants what the heart wants and right or wrong or fair or not, itâs not a question of what you want, itâs how it plays out, what you do with it. And I think weâre still feeling it out in the way that these people in the real world of NCIS, the fake real world of NCIS, I think theyâre all still feeling it out. Theyâre all feeling out how they feel, and we as the writers are right along with them.
The world of NCIS is expanding. You have New York coming, and in show-wise, their locations are pretty close to each other. So it feels like crossovers should be more possible, but then I know itâs going to depend on in real world where youâre actually filming. So what can you say about any crossovers next season? Have you started those conversations?
I have not had those conversations. Thereâs been a consistent desire for crossover episodes since the dawn of time. So, I canât imagine suddenly this is the year they say, âHey, letâs not do a crossover episode.â I donât know. Something tells me theyâre going to be shooting in New York, and thatâs just going to make it a lot more difficult because then you have to lose actors to travel them and it becomes very difficult. If they were in LA shooting, we could do a lot of crossovers because, can we borrow them for the afternoon? But when you got to fly someone out and fly someone in, youâve lost two days and that doesnât even count the shooting days that theyâre going to be there for.
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What else can you say about Season 24? And of course, I have to ask about seeing Mark Harmon considering you brought up Gibbs in the penultimate episode in a major way.
Yeah. Maybe if you gave me one hand to choose the things Iâm most proud of on this series, thatâs going to be on the hand for sure. Earlier, I was just talking about seeing where the day takes us and not making these broad decisions. There have been multiple times ⊠I mean, we brought up Gibbs. There was a mysterious money deposited into peopleâs accounts. His name has come up, but one of the things weâve resisted doing is placing him in any specific area or job or location. I know Origins has done that to some degree, but you donât necessarily know what time when Gibbs is sitting around the fire, you donât necessarily know when that storytellingâs occurring. It could be at any point. It could have been the night we dropped him off in Alaska.
Weâve been specifically avoiding Gibbs because Iâve always felt that Gibbs is a larger-than-life kind of guy and you almost imagine heâs transitioned to another plane of existence. I donât want to think of Gibbs living in an apartment in Anchorage. Thatâs not what I want to think of him. I want to think of him permanently in the woods, fishing, however that works. So Iâve been very careful about when we bring him back, if we were to bring him back in any way, that we donât burst that bubble and we continue letting him be this larger than life character.
And then the second piece is it had to be worthy, had to be worthy for Gibbs to come back. And what happened in the penultimate episode, I think, is about as worthy as it gets: protecting his family.
So then going forward, thatâs what youâre looking at, right?
Yeah.
And what else can you say about Season 24 in general?
Itâs a little too soon to commit to anything. Itâs still blue sky right now. The only thing I could say is this last season, I think we went to some very interesting places with our characters, and weâre going to try and build on that and continue in a way that still also tells just some good week-to-week mysteries, balance those two things.
NCIS, Season 24, Fall 2026, Tuesdays, 8/7c, CBS


